Sunday, November 8, 2009

Bleach is 20

22 comments:

Spencer Troxell said...

Nirvana never really did anything for me. Pearl Jam? Now there's a band.

Detector said...

Are you kidding me? Kurt Cobain was the Katy Perry of his day. Meaning he was the coolest person alive at that time.

Spencer Troxell said...

I would never joke about something like that. Viva La Vedder!

Detector said...

I was impressed that Eddie Vedder learned to play guitar after being just a singer so many years. I just like pop music better in general and to me Nirvana was much more of a pop act than anything else. Pearl Jam was more of just a straight rock band. It wasn't just the music with Nirvana, it was the whole look like especially when Kurt Cobain had pink hair covering his face and the home made flipper shirt.

Mike Boyle said...

Nirvana was the real deal. They had the whole punk/garage aesthetic that had been underground for years.
Being a posterboy for the movement killed Cobain.

Pearl Jam began as a tribute band. A main influence of theirs was rat at rat r, my old friends.

Detector said...

Nirvana was really great live. The Jesus Lizard is actually playing in NY this month. I didn't get tickets. They used to open for Nirvana a lot.

I thought Pearl Jam came from the band Mother Love Bone and after Andrew Wood died Eddie Vedder became the new singer. And he was part of Temple Of The Dog also with Chris Cornell and that was an Andrew Wood tribute band.

Matt DiGangi said...

My thoughts have mellowed over time, but next to Nirvana, Pearl Jam just felt a lot more contrived to me. Eddie Vedder never would have killed himself, and that left him with a lot duller an edge in my eyes.

Spencer Troxell said...

I don't know. I've always been more impressed by people who hang in there. Suicide doesn't attract me in any way. Eddie Vedder is a survivor, which I appreciate.

Pearl Jam's music has such a wider range than Nirvana's. Pearl Jam can brood and sulk and be absurd like Nirvana, but they can also be thoughtful, fun, and optimistic. Nirvana to me was a much more boring, pop version of the pixies, minus everything that made the pixies interesting.

I think you can grow up with Pearl Jam, but Nirvana, like Salinger, starts to lose some of its sheen for me as I move farther and farther away from my angsty teenage years.

Of course, that's just my opinion.

Detector said...

I think of Nirvana as an improvement on what the Pixies were doing but I always liked the Breeders and the Amps much more than the Pixies also. If anything Nirvana sounded most like either the Vaselines or Scratch Acid depending on what song you were listening to. Pearl Jam doesn't have three solid albums like Nirvana does.

I think the suicide was the worst thing about Kurt Cobain and then all the idiotic murder conspiracies that followed.

I would even say Hole, based on their first two albums, were a more worthwhile band than Pearl Jam.

Spencer Troxell said...

Vs, Vitalogy, Backspacer, Yield, and No Code are all solid albums.

Detector said...

What about Ten?

Have you heard One of The Boys? That's a pretty solid album.

If anyone has time please read my review of Gayness of The Beard: The Matt DiGangi Story

Spencer Troxell said...

Ten doesn't really do anything for me anymore. I played it to death when it first came out, and it just feels kind of tedious now.

I haven't heard One of The Boys. I'll have to check it out.

Are they going to turn your Gayness of the beard story into a lifetime movie?

Detector said...

I think Scott Bakula has expressed interest in playing DiGangi.

Detector said...

Also I don't mean to mislead you because One of The Boys is a Katy Perry album. You are only hurting yourself by not listening to it.

Spencer Troxell said...

Oh, thanks for the warning about 'one of the boys'.

We all hurt ourselves in one way or the other, right?

Detector said...

Speaking of Katy Perry I was wondering if anyone has read her boyfriend's memoir "My Booky Wook", everyone tells me it's an amazing book.

Also I just posted a new poem by a Matt DiGangi on my blog. I'm not saying it was written by "the" Matt DiGangi. But it was definitely someone with that name.

nirvaner said...

katy perry is to music as stephanie myers is to literature, right?

and then j.k. rollings is to jayze as george saunders is to ween; while orhan pamuk is to esbjorn svenson as bill vollman is to sigor ros.

isn't saying you like katy perry basically saying you like the studio engineers that make her music and manipulate her voice?

Detector said...

No I saw her live she sounds real good. I'm waiting for her unplugged album in the mail.

Detector said...

For all the Jeff T. Kane haters on here I was punched in the face last night and now it's all busted up.

db cox said...

a link to a decent article on cobain by kevin davis:

http://blogcritics.org/music/article/perpetuating-the-kurt-cobain-legend/

as for me, i'll stick with old jeff beck

Detector said...

A lot of closted fags listened to Jeff Beck on their way to boot camp.

db cox said...

hey,

hope you had a nice veterans day. where were you on the bus?