Saturday, November 28, 2009

Thieves Jargon 195

Love the "Horse Slump" piece by Rhodes Stevens. Nice to see xTx, the internet's biggest tease, lurking around these parts. Big ups to bowling alley representation, always welcome in these parts, especially the candlepin variety. Thomas Mundt's "The Creep" hit me right. Good issue, gang.

22 comments:

crackers said...

mark it 8 dude. smokey, you're entering a world of pain. dude, so his foot slipped over the line. yeah, but i wasn't. a world of pain. am i the only one who gives a shit about the rules? mark it 0.

mather said...

To the writer who informed me here that I should go to HTML: you were right, I went over and it was fun. Unfortunately Blake Butler didn't like me badmouthing Jimmy Chen and now I can't comment. Somehow Jereme Dean can demean the entire female gender but I insult one little Asian guy and I'm the devil.

In other news I have a new column up on Girls With Insurance that Crackers helped me write. Thanks Crackers!

crackers and like stuff said...

you should really put up links when you do this. i'm sure it'll increase your page views substantially. good luck.

Matt DiGangi said...

Oh, Mather!

I do believe that your keen sense of the world has caused you to finally transcend the infereriority of the masses.

I like Jimmy Chen's writing. We've published a lot of cool stuff by him. He's distinctive in his style, polished in his skills, varied thematically, thoughtful as a blogger. He's one of the few people I've come across in the small press who deserves to be in the large press someday.

(Sorry for talking like a mediocre student there.)

mather said...

Yes, Matt, I know you like Chen. I've read the pieces here. Everything you say about him is true except "distinctive in his style". He's slicker than snot and very much the "writer". He can't forget he's a writer for ten minutes. He's pretentious as all fuck and he thinks puns are the height of comedy.

Matt DiGangi said...

Just because somebody's smarter than me doesn't necessarily make them pretentious. Jimmy Chen is one of the most humble people I've talked to.

bored crackers. said...

you should go to html and insult tao lin. he's their favorite. that'll get them stirred up. nice piece of blogging by the way, probably the best i've ever seen. way better than jeff t kane's bullshit. you and he should start a 'the most hated on of all mc's who say they get hated on and exaggerated on in 80 songs' club. word to your mathe, word to your mOther, i mean. sorry about that. also, keep it real.

Nathan said...

"He can't forget he's a writer for ten minutes."

You mean somebody in the small press has passion for their craft and doesn't try to make a name for themselves in th laziest ways possible?

Detector said...

It's cool cracker. I love any kind of attention being paid to me, good or bad. Only malignant narcissists respond poorly to criticism. You're one of my children.

mather said...

Crackers, thanks. My comments are treated as spam now on html so I can't insult Tao Lin in that particular venue. Actually I've seen a lot of commentors ragging on Lin over there.

Chen might be intelligent but if you can't do anything except remind people how smart you are, that's pretentiousness. Sounds humble in person, does he? Well, not on the written page, shoving David Foster Wallace at me, doing that "Sommolier Says" blog which is the snootiest attempt at humor I've seen at HTML. And his poetry? Palindromes? Give me a break. Nathan, if that's your idea of "passion for craft" you can have it. I believe craft should always be second to heart.

mather said...

What's old Rennaisance up to these days?

Nathan said...

"I believe craft should always be second to heart."

That's pretty obvious.

mather said...

Ha ha...you got me there, Nathan! You mean to say I got no craft at all! I get it...boy, that is funny shit...

Tyree, is that you?

mather said...

Nathan, honestly, who the hell are you? Why is it a secret? It doesn't matter so much except that I like to know who I'm talking to. Old fashioned that way.

Nathan said...

All I'm getting at is you can't have craft without heart but you can have heart without craft.

Detector said...

Hey somebody on here once said that Houdini by the Melvins was their worst album. That was total bullshit. I've researched it heavily and most critics and Melvins fans say it is their best by far. It's stupid to dislike something just because Kurt Cobain was involved with it.

mather said...

Why can't you have craft without heart? I consider much modern poetry, especially academic poetry, to be basically craft without heart. Which means: subject matter is just something around which to construct word lattices, to show off their "10 tricks I learned in writing class".

On the other side of it, I do believe it is possible to have heart without craft, but a mix of both is the goal.

Matt DiGangi said...

Talent yo, talent.

mather said...

Talent, yo, in writing, leans toward craft. What's talent got to do with heart? How many talented people have there been in the world who never did anything with it? Too much talent, especially early on, can ruin people because too much admiration encourages vanity and laziness. On the reverse side, how many people in the world with big hearts and drive have accomplished things despite a lack of talent?

Booya, just sayin, as if, for reals yo.

Matt DiGangi said...

There's also the innate thing where you can tell a story that's been told a million times before in a new way, or argue a beat point in a different way. Which is why I don't usually like arguing.

mather said...

Fair enough, that is very true.

Andy Henion said...

The Creep, that's fine work.